Re: svn commit: r1816774 - /subversion/site/staging/mailing-lists.html

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Re: svn commit: r1816774 - /subversion/site/staging/mailing-lists.html

Stefan
On 30/11/2017 23:47, [hidden email] wrote:

> Author: luke1410
> Date: Thu Nov 30 22:47:41 2017
> New Revision: 1816774
>
> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1816774&view=rev
> Log:
> Drop links to gmane archive which is no longer functional.
>
> * site/staging/mailing-lists.html: drop entries for gmane archive
>
> Modified:
>     subversion/site/staging/mailing-lists.html
>
> Modified: subversion/site/staging/mailing-lists.html
> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/subversion/site/staging/mailing-lists.html?rev=1816774&r1=1816773&r2=1816774&view=diff
> ==============================================================================
> --- subversion/site/staging/mailing-lists.html (original)
> +++ subversion/site/staging/mailing-lists.html Thu Nov 30 22:47:41 2017
> @@ -149,8 +149,6 @@ delay for your post to appear (see below
>                    (<a href="/mail/users/">mbox files</a>)</li>
>                <li><a href="https://svn.haxx.se/users/"
>                    >svn.haxx.se</a></li>
> -              <li><a href="http://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.version-control.subversion.user"
> -                  >news.gmane.org</a></li>
>                </ul></td>
>          </tr>
>          <tr>
> @@ -210,8 +208,6 @@ delay for your post to appear (see below
>                    (<a href="/mail/dev/">mbox files</a>)</li>
>                <li><a href="https://svn.haxx.se/dev/"
>                    >svn.haxx.se</a></li>
> -              <li><a href="http://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.version-control.subversion.devel"
> -                  >news.gmane.org</a></li>
>                </ul></td>
>          </tr>
>          </tbody>
>
To explain/record the rational behind this a bit further:

According to [1][2][3] Gmane was taken down in July 2016 and sold to a
holding. The homepage is working again, but it doesn't seem to provide
any archive of the subversion mailing lists anymore [4]. Hence I take
it, we'd rather drop these no longer working links from our webpage.

Regards,
Stefan

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gmane
[2] https://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/2016/07/28/the-end-of-gmane/
[3] https://lwn.net/Articles/695695/
[4] http://gmane.org/find.php?list=subversion

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Re: svn commit: r1816774 - /subversion/site/staging/mailing-lists.html

Daniel Shahaf-2
Stefan wrote on Thu, 30 Nov 2017 23:52 +0100:

> On 30/11/2017 23:47, [hidden email] wrote:
> > Author: luke1410
> > Date: Thu Nov 30 22:47:41 2017
> > New Revision: 1816774
> >
> > URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1816774&view=rev
> > Log:
> > Drop links to gmane archive which is no longer functional.
> >
> > * site/staging/mailing-lists.html: drop entries for gmane archive
> >
> > Modified:
> >     subversion/site/staging/mailing-lists.html
> >
> > Modified: subversion/site/staging/mailing-lists.html
> > URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/subversion/site/staging/mailing-lists.html?rev=1816774&r1=1816773&r2=1816774&view=diff
> > ==============================================================================
> > --- subversion/site/staging/mailing-lists.html (original)
> > +++ subversion/site/staging/mailing-lists.html Thu Nov 30 22:47:41 2017
> > @@ -149,8 +149,6 @@ delay for your post to appear (see below
> >                    (<a href="/mail/users/">mbox files</a>)</li>
> >                <li><a href="https://svn.haxx.se/users/"
> >                    >svn.haxx.se</a></li>
> > -              <li><a href="http://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.version-control.subversion.user"
> > -                  >news.gmane.org</a></li>
> >                </ul></td>
> >          </tr>
> >          <tr>
> > @@ -210,8 +208,6 @@ delay for your post to appear (see below
> >                    (<a href="/mail/dev/">mbox files</a>)</li>
> >                <li><a href="https://svn.haxx.se/dev/"
> >                    >svn.haxx.se</a></li>
> > -              <li><a href="http://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.version-control.subversion.devel"
> > -                  >news.gmane.org</a></li>
> >                </ul></td>
> >          </tr>
> >          </tbody>
> >
> To explain/record the rational behind this a bit further:
>
> According to [1][2][3] Gmane was taken down in July 2016 and sold to a
> holding. The homepage is working again, but it doesn't seem to provide
> any archive of the subversion mailing lists anymore [4]. Hence I take
> it, we'd rather drop these no longer working links from our webpage.

I believe news.gmane.org is still accessible over NNTP even though it's
not accessible over HTTP, so we could just change the http:// links
to NNTP links.

Cheers,

Daniel
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Re: svn commit: r1816774 - /subversion/site/staging/mailing-lists.html

Stefan
On 01/12/2017 00:48, Daniel Shahaf wrote:

> Stefan wrote on Thu, 30 Nov 2017 23:52 +0100:
>> On 30/11/2017 23:47, [hidden email] wrote:
>>> Author: luke1410
>>> Date: Thu Nov 30 22:47:41 2017
>>> New Revision: 1816774
>>>
>>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1816774&view=rev
>>> Log:
>>> Drop links to gmane archive which is no longer functional.
>>>
>>> * site/staging/mailing-lists.html: drop entries for gmane archive
>>>
>>> Modified:
>>>     subversion/site/staging/mailing-lists.html
>>>
>>> Modified: subversion/site/staging/mailing-lists.html
>>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/subversion/site/staging/mailing-lists.html?rev=1816774&r1=1816773&r2=1816774&view=diff
>>> ==============================================================================
>>> --- subversion/site/staging/mailing-lists.html (original)
>>> +++ subversion/site/staging/mailing-lists.html Thu Nov 30 22:47:41 2017
>>> @@ -149,8 +149,6 @@ delay for your post to appear (see below
>>>                    (<a href="/mail/users/">mbox files</a>)</li>
>>>                <li><a href="https://svn.haxx.se/users/"
>>>                    >svn.haxx.se</a></li>
>>> -              <li><a href="http://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.version-control.subversion.user"
>>> -                  >news.gmane.org</a></li>
>>>                </ul></td>
>>>          </tr>
>>>          <tr>
>>> @@ -210,8 +208,6 @@ delay for your post to appear (see below
>>>                    (<a href="/mail/dev/">mbox files</a>)</li>
>>>                <li><a href="https://svn.haxx.se/dev/"
>>>                    >svn.haxx.se</a></li>
>>> -              <li><a href="http://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.version-control.subversion.devel"
>>> -                  >news.gmane.org</a></li>
>>>                </ul></td>
>>>          </tr>
>>>          </tbody>
>>>
>> To explain/record the rational behind this a bit further:
>>
>> According to [1][2][3] Gmane was taken down in July 2016 and sold to a
>> holding. The homepage is working again, but it doesn't seem to provide
>> any archive of the subversion mailing lists anymore [4]. Hence I take
>> it, we'd rather drop these no longer working links from our webpage.
> I believe news.gmane.org is still accessible over NNTP even though it's
> not accessible over HTTP, so we could just change the http:// links
> to NNTP links.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Daniel

Good catch. Just verified that the subversion mailing lists are still
archived and accessible via the NNTP. I'll simply update the links to
the nntp ones instead. Or would anyoneobject?

Regards,
Stefan

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Re: svn commit: r1816774 - /subversion/site/staging/mailing-lists.html

Julian Foad-5
Stefan wrote:
> Good catch. Just verified that the subversion mailing lists are still
> archived and accessible via the NNTP. I'll simply update the links to
> the nntp ones instead. Or would anyoneobject?

I am very grateful to you for doing this maintenance. No objection here!

- Julian